Green Affected WarmerGate Fallout: 'I am sick to my stomach': 'As a long time AGW supporter I must say I found the emails very disturbing'
| 23 November 2009
Former believers in the UN and media hyped "consensus" of man-made climate fears are now pausing and reconsidering the "evidence" which "ClimateGate" or "WarmerGate" has exposed.
A posting on the Christian Science Monitor named "Ron" sums up the impact of the scandal that is rocking the United Nation's global warming establishment. These comments may turn out to be the inconvenient sentiment of many.
Full comments reproduced below:
Ron | 11.21.09 - Christian Science Monitor - Comment #8
As a long time AGW supporter I must say I found the emails very disturbing.
I spent hours reading them myself. I don't know if they qualify as “smoking gun” that the AGW science is bust, but I just cannot ignore it.
I feel ashamed for the behavior of our leading scientists. Even more than feeling ashamed – I feel betrayed.
For years I trusted that science will prevail over the unsubstantiated skeptic view. These emails reveal a very disturbing picture of ideology overriding science. Science being bent out of shape to
support a hypothesis.
They reveal unbelievable arrogance. These people whom I trusted so much think they are
- above the law (destroying email, refusing FOIA, tax evasion)
- above the data (“hide the decline”, remove the cooling blimp)
- above their peers (get uncomforting journal editors fired, block
skeptic publications)
- above the rest of us (manipulate the message, presentation and media)
I am sick to my stomach. I know there are so many other hard working scientists that have not tainted themselves. But this group – Phil Jones, Ken Briffa, Mike Man, Gavin Schmidt have casted a huge shadow of doubt over the entire field and caused a huge damage to the green
movement.
I talked with many of my friends who, like most of us, continue to believe in AGW, and we think that as long as these guys continue to lead the science and the IPCC assessments they will continue to taint all of the good work done by thousands of other scientists.
We need to acknowledge that wrong was done. We need to replace the tainted leadership and continue the research without the air of doubt.
Comments
This guy is a fraud as well
It is very hard for the average man in the street to see this because they are constantly bombarded with alarmist propoganda.
You will see more of this type of arguement, "This type of behavior puuts a black eye on the green movement".
That will be the talking point, and the communistic green movement wont bat an eye.
They will have another disaster waiting in the wings.
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November 27, 2009
Those in the know are fully aware that the mainstream media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the State. You’re reading this, so you’re probably one of those people. It is so easy to fall into the mental trap that, if you know something, then how can it not be common knowledge? The sheep don’t even know what the carbon tax is, or what’s at stake in Copenhagen. They are completely and utterly clueless.
For the rest of us, the fight is joined. The globalists have thrown their best punches while we played rope-a-dope. Even before this scandal broke, they were running out of gas. Their gloves were heavy. A global agreement to supposedly cut carbon emissions, if you believed what the media told you (I don’t), was in already in jeopardy prior to the release of the hacked emails. These revelations are a flurry of knockout blows, if only we’re able to break through the media blackout and propaganda protecting these criminals from being fully exposed. The media will not be our ally in this.
The globalists, the eugenicists, are in this for the long haul. All of their eggs are in the climate hoax basket. They’re not going to stop now. Why would they? We all know this was never about climate change in the first place. We knew that they knew that it was the sun driving the climate, and that temperatures haven’t risen in at least ten years. If this were about saving the Earth – if they truly were not evil, just wrong, as the newest documentary naively suggests – then the climate scientists would’ve packed it in a long time ago.
No, what this is and always was about is an excuse for global government. This they certainly do not deny. Ban Ki-Moon, the UN Secretary General, penned an op-ed in the New York Times last month in which he called for a global government funded by carbon taxes. The new president of the European Union, Herman van Rompuy, said that 2009 was the first year of global governance, and that the Copenhagen climate conference would be “another step towards the global management of our planet”. In July, Al Gore spoke at Oxford University and stated that global governance, funded by the Waxman-Markey cap and trade tax which will be voted upon in the Senate within the coming weeks, is necessary for combating “climate change”.
The globalist plan for world government – the elimination of national sovereignty, ie the destruction of the United States of America – must be fully exposed. We know that this scheme is completely unknown to the vast majority of people. Perhaps now that Glenn Beck is finally speaking of this conspiracy, the Fox “News” crowd will get their heads out of their rears and realize it’s not “liberals” behind this, it’s globalists – there are prominent Republicans and so-called conservative leaders pushing this as well. Unfortunately, because Beck and Fox actively promote the left-right paradigm, the establishment will still try to paint the issue as an attack by right wing hacks and special interests.
Whatever, is happening to my family's and my lifestyle without us having our say? To Find out go to: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
Do you think that the sun never moves???? It has its own orbit...and the earth does not have a "track" on which to revolve....therefore it can "stray" from its path..and it does..so it actually can move closer to the sun...in 50 to 60 year "cycles" In 1939 we had a winter so warm that all the birch trees budded and leaves came out..then frooze...we lost almost all the birch on my dad's woodlot....Just a cycle...we had 10 years with almost no snow...then in 2007.... 17 feet on snow....JUST a Cycle........But alarmist will pounce on this to try to scare you...and make some $$$ with this.....Like david Suzuki and Al Gore does so well...Listen up there people...Its just the weather...and you and I cannot do diddly squat about it...as least not me............I ain't God...........
Amen
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