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While global warming alarmists are rather miffed that this display is still being shown, it's a good lesson in the absurdity of basing policy on the fad du jour. Everything in the display is actually correct, but that isn't stopping the 'treehuggers' from wondering why it's even visible to the public, since the man-made global warming hoax should be the ONLY focus at the museum.

UPDATE: This display might get the politically-driven ax very soon.

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# 2009-09-08 06:24
How long do you think it will be before it's taken down altogether? With this administration and the pressure it puts on organizations that don't fall in line with its propaganda, I expect it to be gone by Christmas. Maybe Thanksgiving.
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# 2009-09-08 08:17
Ok. The climate is warming. Fact. The earth naturally goes up and down in temperature. Fact. We humans are speeding up the process of warming the planet with the increased levels of CO2 and other toxins in the atmosphere. Fact. Therefore, the globe is being warmed as a result of human activity at an unnatural rate. Fact. Summers are hotter. Fact. Winters are cooler or longer. Fact. It snows in the South. Fact.
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# 2009-09-08 08:45
Children return to school every Fall. Fact. Soon thereafter, the days get shorter and Winter arrives. Fact. Therefore, children returning to school are the cause of Winter. Fact.

See, I can do it, too. It's called specious reasoning.
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# 2009-09-08 09:08
Ha Ha Ha. Fact. Therefore, I'm LMAO.
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# 2009-09-08 21:05
Sorry Kate but CO2 has never had any affect on climate and that can be proved. CO2 follows temperature by about 800 years so this CO2 rise we have now is caused by the Medieval Warm Period.(Fact) At the moment the global temperatures are falling, do not believe the NOAA their figures are suspect, so wrap up well. Climate is due to solar input moderated mainly by water vapour, clouds, water is the big planet thermostat amd if you believe the theory of the greenhouse effect then 95%+ ov this is water vapour. the rest is CO2 and the rest. Ov this 5% our input is but 3% of the total global CO2 budget, US Dept of Energy figures, so you can see that any variation we make of out C)2 input would have no effect because it is insignificant! ( Fact)
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# 2009-09-09 01:50
Sorry, Doofus, but CO2 is the cause of the current warming, and THAT has been proved. And the 2000s were the hottest decade in human history. Yes, big old right-wing wingnut doesn't trust government scientists, but he's obviously a kook.
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# 2009-09-09 02:18
erwin, please enlighten us with your revelation. i have followed this AGW nonsense for over 2 decades (post graduate) and have yet to see this theory proven. i have seen dozens of climate models fail miserably to predict climate using co2 levels as the basis of those predictions. life as we know it on this planet could never have evolved IF the co2 climate models are correct. these models show a positive feedback which has never been observed on this or any other planet. you see erwin, co2 levels have been much higher than today and yet no observed positive feedback occurred. you may want to check out the new paper by dr's lindzen and choi from mit, it shows that the current climate models being touted by you flat earthers overestimates the effect of co2 by at least 6 times what is real. as for the "hottest decade in human history", that would most likely have occurred about 1000 years ago during the medieval warm period, doofus.
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# 2009-09-16 07:34
Then you should read things like the IPCC report, or some scientific journals. And why the National Academy of Sciences, every other national science academy, every scientific organization, and almost all the articles in peer-reviewed journals are opposed to you.
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# 2009-09-09 21:17
not a Kook but a realist. NOAA last year posted October as the warmest on record but when the data was examined it turned out to be the previous months repeated. One of Hansen's tricks to fool the electors. I do not trust any government, I used to work for UK government so I have some experience. If you care to look at the satellite records posted by UAH you will find that contrary to your claim there has been global cooling since at least 1999. Surface measured temperature is unreliable as it gives a high bias. In 1990 there was a 66% drop off of global measuring stations, from over 6000 to about 2000 and the loss was mainly in the colder regions hence the high averages now. Please look at the data sets and be a little more critical before calling names!
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# 2009-09-16 07:36
I'm sorry you hate the US so much you do not trust it. I'm sorry you think so poorly of science you do not trust scientists.

8 of the 10 warmest years on record have been in this decade. Please don't depend on right-wing kook sites but instead look at scientific ones. Oh, sorry, you hate science.
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# 2009-09-10 08:19
Your facts are not facts. They are your opinion. Humans are only responsible for 2% of all CO2. Sun spots are the cause of Global Warming = Theory (and a good one)
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# 2009-09-16 07:37
Yes, my facts are facts. CO2 is up 40% since the Industrial Revolution, and that is due to human activities (burning fossil fuels). Right-wing kook sites are not good sources for information, by the way.

www.skepticalscience.com has a good refutation of the "sun spots cause GW" idea.
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# 2009-09-10 09:48
The ignorance exhibited by this entry is alarming. The climate is NOT warming . Fact. This summer was not hotter. Fact
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# 2009-09-10 18:40
Eastern Canada can vouch on that fact for you.
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# 2009-09-16 07:38
Fact: 8 of the 10 hottest years on record have occurred in this decade.

You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
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# 2009-09-22 20:47
Kat

Just a little problem... the world's been getting cooler for the past 9 - 10 years, and this is a fact that warmists seen to accept, judging by the excuses for it being offered.
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# 2009-09-08 08:23
Is the climate still warming? (question) Are we speeding up the process or warming? (question) Is the Earth warming as a result of Human activity? (question) Are summers still hotter? (question) Are Winters cooler or longer? (question). So, it snows in the South? (rhetorical question).

Facts aren't easy to come by Kat. There are a lot of people spouting what I can only call "[censored]s" in peer reviewed journals these days.
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# 2009-09-08 15:52
the global warming crusade may well bring undone the whole virtue of peer review itself... let's just imagine the heavy cost for the integrity of science itself if Copernicus, or Martin Luther for that of the Church, had not the courage to move beyond the conscience or even understanding of their own peers!
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# 2009-09-09 01:51
So you're smarter than actual scientists publishing in scientific journals? What an idiot.

Yes, facts aren't easy to come by, especially if all you read are right-wing web sites. Learn the science, Binky.
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# 2009-09-09 02:25
erwin, again you need to do more reading. there is a plethora of peer reviewed work that disputes and disproves agw. i would recommend starting with dr richard s lindzen of mit, then you can check out the lead author of the original ipcc report dr john christy of univ of alabama huntsville. i could go on for days listing actual scientists who work in this field who do not agree with agw, but somehow i feel you would not be willing to learn the real science behind climate. it appears your arguments mainly consist of "nuh-uh" and name calling and that tells me you are not a deep thinker and not really interested in the truth. your generation has been taught what to think and not how, you are the sad result of this new form of child abuse.
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# 2009-09-16 07:40
No there isn't. I would suggest you start with the actual IPCC report. Then read what the National Academy of Sciences says. The American Geophysical Union. American Physics Society. American Chemical Society. Royal Society. Or you could read some actual scientific journals.

You know, someone ignorant about science should not presume to tell scientists what the science is. You should really learn some science.
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# 2009-09-09 04:26
As far as I can tell, science is not a right or left issue. Only misinformed persons believe that to be true as it makes it easier to remain ignorant of the facts.
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# 2009-09-08 09:27
Kat's an idiot. Typical of the tree-hugger mentality. Personally, i am doing my part to reduce the CO2 plantfood in the atmosphere by drinking all the CO2 i can. Pepsi, Beer, Champagne... bring it on. Let's save the earth by drinking more beer. Kegger, anyone? Makes just as much sense as the balderdash being passed off as 'science' by the warmers.
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# 2009-09-08 12:34
I do what I can to add CO2. I've been grilling all summer on my charcoal grill. And my backyard has gone wild. I think that's because CO2 is plant food. I've had to trim all the trees and the rosebushes, which I had already trimmed have doubled in spread and reach. And when I start the coals, I use a charcoal starter can with newspaper underneath. So, I get to recycle newspaper and still contribute CO2. It gives me warm fuzzy when I do it.

CO2 does not cause temperature increase. Never has and never will.
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# 2009-09-09 01:53
CO2 does, you idiot. That's a proven scientific fact. Why do so many right-wingers love to flaunt their stupidity like this?
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# 2009-09-09 02:29
deep thoughts from erwin... has anyone ever polled co2 to find out what its politcal bent may be? should we politicize science? the germans tried this and we got Auschwitz. take a deep breath erwin and let some of that oxygen get to your brain.
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# 2009-09-08 13:10
Poor poor Kat. I really do feel for her. She has no concept of natural science. She just sounds like any other simpleton out there who relies on the mainstream media for her 'education'. And while she's at, she's trying to have a bet both ways as well! She'd be a great 'climate campaigner' - but give her lack of natural science understanding - perhaps she is!! Kat - you have my sympathies.
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# 2009-09-09 01:54
OK, Doofus, put up or shut up. What science degree do you have?

It's science telling us CO2 is causing the warming. Every national science academy (including the National Academy of Sciences) agrees. Every scientific organization agrees. The papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals agree. So what's the logical conclusion? You're a right-wing idiot (oh, sorry, that's redundant).
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# 2009-09-09 02:55
erwin has just shown us all exactly how deep his knowledge of climate goes. you cannot blame this brainwashed child anymore than a dog that barks too much. garbage in and garbage out, we can thank the public school system for his dysfunction. erwin please stop embarrassing yourself, go read and come back to the discussion in a year or two. and stop the childish name calling.
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# 2009-12-07 14:59
How's that "peer reviewed" data from scientists working for you now Erwin?
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# 2009-09-09 19:44
Erwin

Good day

Its good to find someone so astonishingly believing.

Stephen and others have tried to explain to you, I suggest you listen. I am a Chartered Environmentalis t and a few years ago I was lead to believe that CO2 emissions were causing global warming. I decided that I needed more facts, so i researched.

To my great surprise I found a lot of serious and convincing work showing that CO2 is not affecting the climate any more than it always has and must. If you look you will find that the temperature rises for a few years, and drops back, things are not greatly different now to 1900.

Against this I found the case of the IPCC to be pathetic. In fact I would say that any junior school child with an open mind (that's the key), could deduce that climate change is a scam. Why else try to choke all dissent?

I don't think you really can be so stupid - you are winding us up - aren't you?
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# 2009-09-16 07:42
You found scientific journal articles showing CO2 is not affecting science? What journals?

And you find the IPCC to be pathetic? You, sir, are an idiot. You get thousands of the world's top scientists together and you claim you know more than they do?

Learn.The.Science.
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# 2009-09-09 20:41
Are you a scientist, erwin?
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# 2009-09-08 13:15
Kat,

Photosynthesis involves the inputs of carbon dioxide and solar radiation. That is a toxin?

The basic building block of green living things is a toxin?
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# 2009-09-09 04:03
CO2 is a trace element in our atmosphere. Approx. 0.3% is CO2 and increases caused by man are less than 0.003% some measurements place it at 0.001%. Let's make a simple experiment. Go on your roof and if it has 1000 grey shingles and you paint a 1/3 of one shingle a charcoal color. How much affect of the temperature of your house would that make? Answer is so small it would be lost in the other major factors such as wind, rain, snow, shady trees and direct sunlight. The basic physics alone refute AGW.

Now let's try the REAL math!
Gore and his fellow associates started investing more than 10 years ago, (estimates say $ 100,000,000) in companies that would profit from Cap and Trade. They began touting AGW ( and thus causing their companies value to rise exponentially).

Mr. Gore literally has 100 million reasons to promote AGW and refute any counters claims. Who would you trust to tell you the truth if $ 100 million dollars hangs in the balance?

Excluding trusted relatives:
How many are politicians? How many are lawyers? How many are both?

You do the math!

Can there be a better reason to question AGW?
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# 2009-09-16 07:44
Wrong. The 40% increase in CO2 is due to humans.

Hey, a microgram of ricin is toxic to a 100-kg person. Why do you think the relative amount is so important/A

And forget Gore -- it's you denialists that always bring him up. Find one national science academy, one scientific organization, that agrees with you. Just one.
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# 2009-09-09 04:05
Estimates for valued investments were $ 100,000,000 or 100 million dollars(not sure why it was truncated.
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# 2009-09-09 04:26
hey erwin, it's time for YOU to put up or shut up! where's your so called "science"? interglacial john has given you references and i could give you more, but i get the feeling that would be wasted effort.. the fact is that co2 is not only beneficial but is ESSENTIAL for life. if it wasn't for co2 you would not even be around to spout your inane drivel. get an education then you MAY be able to present a comprehensible ( i know that's a big word for you) argument rather than the trash talking name calling that your present posts exhibit. CO2 RULES!
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# 2009-09-16 07:45
No, he gave me no "references." I've cited IPCC, National Academy of Sciences, American Geophysical Union, Royal Society, and there are numerous articles in scientific journals like Science and Nature.

Water is also beneficial, so I guess there's no such thing as too much water? No such thing as floods?
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# 2009-09-09 07:07
ok erwin, i can't help it. i have to give you some references to help enlighten your addled brain. first google, "latest scientific studies refute fears of greenland melt" and not only read the article but read the links too. second, google dr. roy spencer, dr. don easterbrook and laurence i. gould. there are scores of others too.
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# 2009-09-16 07:46
YOU google and read some scientific articles. I mean in journals like Nature of Science, not on somebody's blog.

And your Dr. Spencer is also an admitted creationist.
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# 2009-09-24 04:14
So what if he is an "admitted creationist." Does that make his scientific conclusions (regardless of the facts supporting them) invalid?
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# 2009-09-14 05:22
Stephen: I believe that your math is incorrect WRT the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. I believe that CO2 is closer to 0.03% not 0.3% (300 ppm = 300/1,000,000*100 = .03%)

Cheers
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# 2009-09-14 16:29
Poor old Herr Doktor Schroedinger is rolling over in his grave
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# 2009-09-21 14:14
Erwin,

Science is not an organization, an academy or a consensus. If it were validated by consensus, Copernicus would be considered a fool.

It involves hypothesis, theory, testing and observation. And observation nullified many of the modeling predictions of the IPCC. NASA's Godard institute has documented either a stable or cooling trend since 98 - not what was predicted by the IPCC models. You saying the last 10 years are the warmest in human history flies in the face of ... human history. As I can recall, Greenland has been marginally populated and without any agriculture to speak of in the last ten years (last 700 years actually). But during the medieval warm period, a time lasting about 400 years they had a bustling farm economy while England produced wines. Also, the Roman Warm Period was considerably warmer than today. These warm periods were marked by growing economies and abundant crops.

This is not a right wing conspiracy. These are truly facts. Accurate temperature records have been kept since the late 1890's. During that time, temperatures declined from 1940 to 1979 to the point the media rang the alarm for the new ice age. Then from 1998 temperatures have been stable or in decline. So that makes approximately, 50 years of 110 years of record keeping with no increase. Notable is the decline from 1940-79. Industrial output worldwide almost tripled, CO2 levels increased but while temperatures declined. This is not accounted for in the IPCC models. Again this is not right wingnut kook news. These facts are widely available.

Now let's examine the ice records. CO2 historically overall correlates with temperature rise and fall. From a distance, the graphs look in lock stop. Now zoom in and you'll see CO2 always lags behind temperature in some cases by almost 800 years. It's nature. Heat up a beer can or a soda and CO2 rise to the top and escapes into the atmosphere. Now take that to a global level and substitute the ocean for your beer. At 380 parts to 100,000, CO2 is truly a trace gas in the greenhouse gas scheme of things. Methane and Water Vapor dwarf it.

Now to the money train. From cap and trade, carbon offsets, Planet Green, alternative energy stocks and products, to environmental groups, to scientific grants, to Green Barbie, AGW is the gift that keeps on giving. Unlike a proven hazard like asbestos, which once proven to cause cancer, now has a finite limit on removal and lawsuits. Its gravy train eventually dries up. With AGW, since it will never be definitively proven or will ever be upon us, its alarm state can keep ringing, becoming an endless well of funds. Fear sells. If you follow the money trail, many of your vaunted scientific institutions have compromised the research through serous conflicts of interest. The current state of many academies and institutions is you will get muzzled, fired or marginalized if you speak out against AGW. Not because your science is bad, but the threat you pose to funding (see Al Carlin).

Chew on this while you stew. Which company was a major player in funding research to prove AGW? Not Greenpeace. Not the Sierra Club. Not even the IPCC. Good Ole Enron. Yes, Enron, the mega ship of land pirates. The once largest corporation in a America. You ask why? Follow the money. They had a huge stake in becoming the worlds biggest trader in carbon offsets. They made billions in the government's program in sulfer dioxide offsets (a real pollutant) and had every intention of making a killing on carbon offsets.

So please, don't say it's a right-wing conspiracy. Enron was populated and run with as many right wingers as fast as you can say "Texas". It's about money. And like science, greed knows no political party.
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# 2009-09-21 14:25
An addendum.

I think the bigger fear and more likely reality is global cooling. Being in an interglacial period in an Ice Age (yes, technically we are still in an ice age - this is no right wing conspiracy, it's just history reaching back a little less selectively than the IPCC), we are due to begin to head towards another glacial maximum. We've had about 11,000 years or warmth - good times for mankind. And if Earth's cycles remain consistent, we should head towards another glacial period in one to two thousand years. For humans we will have to do some quickly evolving to cope with that. Just in during the mini ice age 1400's to mid 1800's, were marked by famine and unrest.

The scenarios for cooling will be far worse than warming.
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