| 08 September 2009
While global warming alarmists are rather miffed that this display is still being shown, it's a good lesson in the absurdity of basing policy on the fad du jour. Everything in the display is actually correct, but that isn't stopping the 'treehuggers' from wondering why it's even visible to the public, since the man-made global warming hoax should be the ONLY focus at the museum.
UPDATE: This display might get the politically-driven ax very soon.




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See, I can do it, too. It's called specious reasoning.
8 of the 10 warmest years on record have been in this decade. Please don't depend on right-wing kook sites but instead look at scientific ones. Oh, sorry, you hate science.
www.skepticalscience.com has a good refutation of the "sun spots cause GW" idea.
You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
Just a little problem... the world's been getting cooler for the past 9 - 10 years, and this is a fact that warmists seen to accept, judging by the excuses for it being offered.
Facts aren't easy to come by Kat. There are a lot of people spouting what I can only call "[censored]s" in peer reviewed journals these days.
Yes, facts aren't easy to come by, especially if all you read are right-wing web sites. Learn the science, Binky.
You know, someone ignorant about science should not presume to tell scientists what the science is. You should really learn some science.
CO2 does not cause temperature increase. Never has and never will.
It's science telling us CO2 is causing the warming. Every national science academy (including the National Academy of Sciences) agrees. Every scientific organization agrees. The papers in peer-reviewed scientific journals agree. So what's the logical conclusion? You're a right-wing idiot (oh, sorry, that's redundant).
Good day
Its good to find someone so astonishingly believing.
Stephen and others have tried to explain to you, I suggest you listen. I am a Chartered Environmentalis t and a few years ago I was lead to believe that CO2 emissions were causing global warming. I decided that I needed more facts, so i researched.
To my great surprise I found a lot of serious and convincing work showing that CO2 is not affecting the climate any more than it always has and must. If you look you will find that the temperature rises for a few years, and drops back, things are not greatly different now to 1900.
Against this I found the case of the IPCC to be pathetic. In fact I would say that any junior school child with an open mind (that's the key), could deduce that climate change is a scam. Why else try to choke all dissent?
I don't think you really can be so stupid - you are winding us up - aren't you?
And you find the IPCC to be pathetic? You, sir, are an idiot. You get thousands of the world's top scientists together and you claim you know more than they do?
Learn.The.Science.
Photosynthesis involves the inputs of carbon dioxide and solar radiation. That is a toxin?
The basic building block of green living things is a toxin?
Now let's try the REAL math!
Gore and his fellow associates started investing more than 10 years ago, (estimates say $ 100,000,000) in companies that would profit from Cap and Trade. They began touting AGW ( and thus causing their companies value to rise exponentially).
Mr. Gore literally has 100 million reasons to promote AGW and refute any counters claims. Who would you trust to tell you the truth if $ 100 million dollars hangs in the balance?
Excluding trusted relatives:
How many are politicians? How many are lawyers? How many are both?
You do the math!
Can there be a better reason to question AGW?
Hey, a microgram of ricin is toxic to a 100-kg person. Why do you think the relative amount is so important/A
And forget Gore -- it's you denialists that always bring him up. Find one national science academy, one scientific organization, that agrees with you. Just one.
Water is also beneficial, so I guess there's no such thing as too much water? No such thing as floods?
And your Dr. Spencer is also an admitted creationist.
Cheers
Science is not an organization, an academy or a consensus. If it were validated by consensus, Copernicus would be considered a fool.
It involves hypothesis, theory, testing and observation. And observation nullified many of the modeling predictions of the IPCC. NASA's Godard institute has documented either a stable or cooling trend since 98 - not what was predicted by the IPCC models. You saying the last 10 years are the warmest in human history flies in the face of ... human history. As I can recall, Greenland has been marginally populated and without any agriculture to speak of in the last ten years (last 700 years actually). But during the medieval warm period, a time lasting about 400 years they had a bustling farm economy while England produced wines. Also, the Roman Warm Period was considerably warmer than today. These warm periods were marked by growing economies and abundant crops.
This is not a right wing conspiracy. These are truly facts. Accurate temperature records have been kept since the late 1890's. During that time, temperatures declined from 1940 to 1979 to the point the media rang the alarm for the new ice age. Then from 1998 temperatures have been stable or in decline. So that makes approximately, 50 years of 110 years of record keeping with no increase. Notable is the decline from 1940-79. Industrial output worldwide almost tripled, CO2 levels increased but while temperatures declined. This is not accounted for in the IPCC models. Again this is not right wingnut kook news. These facts are widely available.
Now let's examine the ice records. CO2 historically overall correlates with temperature rise and fall. From a distance, the graphs look in lock stop. Now zoom in and you'll see CO2 always lags behind temperature in some cases by almost 800 years. It's nature. Heat up a beer can or a soda and CO2 rise to the top and escapes into the atmosphere. Now take that to a global level and substitute the ocean for your beer. At 380 parts to 100,000, CO2 is truly a trace gas in the greenhouse gas scheme of things. Methane and Water Vapor dwarf it.
Now to the money train. From cap and trade, carbon offsets, Planet Green, alternative energy stocks and products, to environmental groups, to scientific grants, to Green Barbie, AGW is the gift that keeps on giving. Unlike a proven hazard like asbestos, which once proven to cause cancer, now has a finite limit on removal and lawsuits. Its gravy train eventually dries up. With AGW, since it will never be definitively proven or will ever be upon us, its alarm state can keep ringing, becoming an endless well of funds. Fear sells. If you follow the money trail, many of your vaunted scientific institutions have compromised the research through serous conflicts of interest. The current state of many academies and institutions is you will get muzzled, fired or marginalized if you speak out against AGW. Not because your science is bad, but the threat you pose to funding (see Al Carlin).
Chew on this while you stew. Which company was a major player in funding research to prove AGW? Not Greenpeace. Not the Sierra Club. Not even the IPCC. Good Ole Enron. Yes, Enron, the mega ship of land pirates. The once largest corporation in a America. You ask why? Follow the money. They had a huge stake in becoming the worlds biggest trader in carbon offsets. They made billions in the government's program in sulfer dioxide offsets (a real pollutant) and had every intention of making a killing on carbon offsets.
So please, don't say it's a right-wing conspiracy. Enron was populated and run with as many right wingers as fast as you can say "Texas". It's about money. And like science, greed knows no political party.
I think the bigger fear and more likely reality is global cooling. Being in an interglacial period in an Ice Age (yes, technically we are still in an ice age - this is no right wing conspiracy, it's just history reaching back a little less selectively than the IPCC), we are due to begin to head towards another glacial maximum. We've had about 11,000 years or warmth - good times for mankind. And if Earth's cycles remain consistent, we should head towards another glacial period in one to two thousand years. For humans we will have to do some quickly evolving to cope with that. Just in during the mini ice age 1400's to mid 1800's, were marked by famine and unrest.
The scenarios for cooling will be far worse than warming.
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